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绝对不可能移植，能学会用就已经非常非常不错了。内部包含无数WINAPI。我曾经也想把一个组件转成FMX，发觉巨大的不同，其中一个体会是，在FMX中函数使用的都是全都是浮点数而没有整数，这是与生俱来的不匹配。
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dede3000 (dede3000)	▲▲▲▲△	-
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2014/10/22 15:25:35

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DevExpress CTO 2周以前的最新回复,意思是从财务角度出发,云云,反正就是不支持.

Julian Bucknall (DevExpress)2 weeks ago
Gernot: Moving from VCL to FMX is certainly not 'impossible' and in fact is pretty much equivalent to a conversion from .NET to VCL. The issue is not the language, it's the run-time of the platform. FMX and VCL are not the same run-time, they do not have the same API, they do not have the same features, they use a different graphical interface, a different class model, etc, etc.

Also we just don't have the extra resources. We have a great Delphi dev team; they do some stellar work in maintaining and expanding our VCL offering. I'm not just saying that: all you need to do is look at the new features and functionality that has been added to DevExpress VCL since we converted to a subscription model to see the quality and breadth of the new capabilities.

But in a similar ratio to our customer base, the large majority of our developers are C# and JavaScript devs. It's not like we have a group of Delphi devs there just twiddling thumbs wondering what to do. We either stop developing the VCL product (which we can't do -- it's a subscription, remember -- people are expecting meaningful updates), or we hire and create a new FMX team (which becomes a business decision -- X developers at $Y salary per year means we have to sell Z copies of the final product to break even/make money). And the value of that proposition is just not clear from where I am.

Cheers, Julian
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dede3000 (dede3000)	▲▲▲▲△	-
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2014/10/22 15:27:58

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6天以前一个叫多诺万的伙计,从客户角度,温柔地威胁了Julian一下,意思是,RemObjects也这么干了,明确表示不会支持FireMonkey.据我所知,很多他们的客户不准备再订阅了.老实说,我不想看到同样的事发生在DevExpress身上.

Donovan Boddy6 days ago
Hi Julian

Thank you for the feedback.

I think the main frustration that everyone is feeling is that we have become comfortable, perhaps even lazy when relying on third party products, and lets face it, us Delphi guys can be very stubborn at times so the prospect of learning new third party components is not something we do very happily.

You are not alone with your stance on FM, Rem Objects for example has flat out REFUSED to support the new compiler despite much begging and pleading from its customer base, and i can assure you that I know many people who will not be renewing their subscriptions, I just don't want the same to happen here.

I will keep a watch on the forums to see if/when anything changes.

Thanks again

Donovan Boddy

原帖地址,大家看看就好.相信就算有DevExpress独特的功能,替代品也总能找到.不支持就不支持吧.不是还有TMS等支持的么.
https://www.devexpress.com/Support/Center/Question/Details/Q428652
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dede3000 (dede3000)	▲▲▲▲△	-
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2014/10/22 15:29:54

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这个事情对于我等开发人员是一个提醒.至少我准备降低对于第三方组件的依赖程度.以免某家突然不玩了,自己的产品受影响.
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nevergrief (孤独骑士)	★☆☆☆☆	-
	盒子活跃会员

2014/10/22 15:40:12

5楼：

关键是这句：
to our customer base, the large majority of our developers are C# and JavaScript devs.
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abus (abus)	★☆☆☆☆	-
	盒子活跃会员

2014/10/22 15:51:05

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由于之前一些年Delphi的不确定以及新特性的混乱、不稳定性，很多原VCL控件厂家都将重心转出Delphi了，再将这些厂家拉回来已经困难了，厂家在转，程序员也在转，以前VCL控件厂家有多少，现在FMX控件厂家就那么几家，FMX发展到现在有好些年了，又有几个成功的商业软件是使用FMX开发的呢？等EMB自己先将Delphi IDE环境用FMX实现了，再说FMX吧。
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wang_80919 (Flying Wang)	★☆☆☆☆	-
	普通会员

2014/10/22 16:21:54

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楼上的发言，毫无意义。
等 C# 也完蛋了，他们也能找理由换其他的语言。
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dede3000 (dede3000)	▲▲▲▲△	-
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2014/10/22 16:33:09

8楼：

但是不可否认有一点,很多转出了,现在还在做的,会突然发现吃得好饱.
可能订单蜂拥而至了.

to our customer base, the large majority of our developers are C# and JavaScript devs.
nevergrief 切中要害,我都忽略这句了,它比较说明问题.或者说是现状.

其实其他的争论不必.只要不停学习,总是有语言,IDE,组件,Framework给你用.技术不是吃到饭的决定因素,很多老板不会写代码.尤其是董事会那些.哈哈.

保持乐观!保持进步!
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go_on (go_on)	★☆☆☆☆	-
	盒子活跃会员

2014/10/22 16:47:01

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等有需求了，自然就支持了，还是钱的问题，大家都用“免费的”，他们自然没动力
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delphiilove (乌羽玉)	★☆☆☆☆	-
	普通会员

2014/10/22 21:22:45

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还是要好好的支持 TMS 控件，对FireMonkey 的支持特别及时和好。
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