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lsuper (lsuper)
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2015/4/2 11:40:43
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提醒:使用 XE8 的弟兄们一定要注意啊 ~
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http://blog.csdn.net/lsuper/article/details/44829941
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作者:
lsuper (lsuper)
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2015/4/2 11:45:16
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没多久的事啊 http://community.embarcadero.com/index.php/blogs/entry/embarcadero-acquires-castalia-and-usertility
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2015/4/2 11:57:10
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大神 host 文件如何修改? 具体 哪个 BPL 啊?
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
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2015/4/2 12:06:42
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是 xe8 收集用户资料? 还是 发布的exe/app 收集用户资料? 看官方说明,英文不好,看上去好像是 exe/app 收集 .....
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阳光总在
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2015/4/2 12:13:06
3楼:
請問要移除那個BPL? 謝謝
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2015/4/2 13:12:55
4楼:
其实 bpl 是哪个不重要。 我们最好是 BDS.EXE BDSREG.EXE 都禁止他们联网,进站 出站 都禁止。
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
作者:
lsuper (lsuper)
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2015/4/2 13:32:41
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是 xe8 ide,看注册表,bpl 名字很明显的 ~
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2015/4/2 14:07:54
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Usertility XX bpl ????
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Delphi
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2015/4/2 14:09:27
6楼:
想问编译好的程序默认不会带有相关代码吧? 否则又会被杀毒软件当恶意软件杀了。 这种东西把数据都传到emb服务器,我是不想在自己的程序里用。
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作者:
lsuper (lsuper)
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盒子活跃会员
2015/4/2 15:13:43
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楼上多虑,只是 ide 而已
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2015/4/2 15:14:58
8楼:
6 楼不是多虑 和 3 楼一样 是 妖言惑众。
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
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2015/4/2 16:59:14
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@wang_80919 哪一个3楼??????????
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我是菜鸟,己经搞了十多年了,但是我仍然很菜。
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2015/4/2 17:12:55
10楼:
楼上,你可以自己决定是哪一个3 楼。
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
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2015/4/2 17:34:27
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楼上,我英文不好.可以翻译下下面的英文不? The second is Usertility user analytics software, which let's use understand the behavior of the users of your applications.
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阳光总在
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2015/4/2 17:37:06
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楼上,我英文更不好,但是我相信 lsuper 不会害我。
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
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2015/4/2 21:50:27
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@ww1000,“your application"在这里指的就是delphi ide,而不是用delphi ide开发出的软件,除非你在自己的软件中也用了类似的技术,把用户数据发送到你自己的服务器上
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2015/4/2 23:02:56
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AppAnalytics in VCL VCL now supports the TAppAnalytics component. AppAnalytics allows you to track usage data of your application. You only need to drop a TAnalytics component into your application and set some options of the component. After AppAnalytics is active, the usage data is available in a few minutes in the AppAnalytics Web interface. AppAnalytics does not collect or transmit any private or personally identifiable information. It is totally anonymous. 帮助文件内已经说的很清楚了,这是新加入的一项开发功能而非取得XE8本身信息的。
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2015/4/2 23:05:10
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也许EMB也用这个东东进行用户行为的分析?
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2015/4/2 23:52:37
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Customer Experience Program The IDE integrates a new option to join the Customer Experience Program. You can join this program and help Embarcadero to improve RAD Studio. The Customer Experience Program collects information about the usage of the IDE during your session (how often you launch RAD Studio, how do you navigate in the IDE, etc). This information is totally anonymous, since the program does not collect or transmit any private or personally identifiable information. 帮助文件里说明了可以用此功能帮助EMB哈哈!
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2015/4/3 8:47:41
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@wang_80919 你脑子进水啦,我问个问题就妖言惑众? 你自己去看看,数据是不是发到emb的服务器?如果你的app使用这个技术,一样是发到emb的服务器,幻想自己搭个服务器的,自己去查查,价格肯定贵的吓人。 这东西我的app里自己写过类似的,自己决定收集什么数据,更适合特定的app,数据也发到我自己的网站,方便可靠。这东西也不复杂,XE8加入这个功能根本就是emb自己想收集用delphi开发的app的相关数据用,同时,收SB用户的年费。基于这个理解,我当然有理由怀疑一下默认的程序是不是包含相关代码,就像RTTI,我从来不用它,但每个程序都不得不包含一大堆的垃圾。
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作者:
samvon (Sam.com)
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2015/4/3 11:16:40
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@ceteric (ceteric)自己写个不联网的程序,然后用拦包工具监测一下不就知道了,我觉得默认程序包含代码不太可能,这样随便写个程序都要联网,这是要找死吗
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2015/4/3 13:13:05
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@samvon 我还没装,如果有问题,就懒得折腾,如果没问题,再考虑安装,毕竟把整个开发环境都搞一遍,还是很麻烦。 另外,我不担心它自动联网,我想emb还不至于如此,但担心它会默认引用一些相关代码,就像我举例的RTTI,不管你用不用,它都有一些垃圾在程序里。 如果有这种情况,一方面无谓的增加程序大小,另一方面,有被误杀的可能。
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2015/4/3 13:32:49
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rtti 是 FMX 的基础。不用会死的。 另外 java 也支持 rtti 。经常用来 反射得到 未公开接口。 rtti 增加不了多少容量,DELPHI 容量大,还是 VCL 设计的思路问题。 什么垃圾都往 res 里头装。用不用都装。 这才是问题。
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(C)(P)Flying Wang
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2015/4/3 14:23:49
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AppAnalytics in VCL VCL now supports the TAppAnalytics component. AppAnalytics allows you to track usage data of your application. You only need to drop a TAnalytics component into your application and set some options of the component. After AppAnalytics is active, the usage data is available in a few minutes in the AppAnalytics Web interface. AppAnalytics does not collect or transmit any private or personally identifiable information. It is totally anonymous. VCL现在支持tappanalytics组件。appanalytics组件允许你跟踪你的应用程序的使用数据。你只需把tanalytics组件拖到您的应用程序并设置一些选项即可。在appanalytics组件active后几分钟内,使用数据在appanalytics Web界面是可用的。appanalytics不会收集或散播任何私有信息或个人身份信息。它是完全匿名的。
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作者:
go_on (go_on)
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2015/4/3 16:13:09
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收集用户的使用系统很多软件都有的,包括VS,都是在用户同意的情况下。安装的时候一般会提示,lite和绿色就是特殊情况了;总有人怀疑自己的exe被加入这种代码,这个肯定不会的,这个要编译器支持,没必要花那么大力气修改编译器,而且很容易被发现,法律上根本就没有意义,证据的收集是要合法的。用防火墙管好自己的IDE就好了
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作者:
biznow (biznow)
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2015/4/3 18:40:19
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