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| 楼主： |  http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2Apache modules in WebBroker and support for DataSnap and EMS FireDAC Linux database access Linux platform support for console apps with IoT support We will formally support Ubuntu Server & RedHat Enterprise. We will extend the formally supported Linux distributions list over time as demand dictates Windows based IDE with cross-compiler, deploy and debug via PAServer Linux compilers will be for Intel 64-bit server, LLVM-based and ARC-enabled ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/2 15:25:36 | ||||
| 1楼： | Embarcadero RAD Studio 2016 Product Approach and Roadmap As we enter into 2016, the team is very excited by what lies ahead. We have development in process right now and a lot of great plans and ideas for the second half of 2016 and beyond. Before we focus on the future, let's first take a second to reflect on many of the great product updates and other changes that occurred in 2015. RAD Studio 10 Seattle is a fantastic version that will serve as foundation to all we do in the next few years. If you have not moved to 10 Seattle now is the time to do it and as long as you have Update Subscription, you will automatically get new updates and releases as they come out. Windows 10 support is of course the highlight and the new styles & features provide terrific ways to refresh and monetize your apps. However, 2015 delivered much more… Windows 10 Support Large Memory Model IDE New Clang-enhanced C++11 for 32-bit Windows iOS 64-bit & Universal App Support Beacon Proximity Support GetIt Package Manager Introduction Multi-Monitor IDE Support Extensions to Version Insight for SVN, Mercurial and GIT Introduction of AppAnalytics The changes in ownership in 2015 allowed our team to have a new look at the product strategy and roadmap. We actively reached out to partners and customers to understand what is working, what is not working, what you like, and what you don’t like. You told us you want fewer major releases, more seamless updates / upgrades, higher quality, better language support, and more mobile native controls. As you will see and hear, we are making adjustments both in the short and long term to align with these requests. We have a lot of development underway, which cannot all be accomplished within a single release or update. In the Spring development track, code named "Big Ben”, the key themes are quality & first user experience and installation. A new installer leverages our GetIt technology to provide you flexibility to choose what you want to install and reduces installation time. The team is working the following features that will be included in 2016 releases: Separate or floating form designer for VCL & FMX Refactoring in C++ FireUI App Preview - preview your forms on any target (desktop and mobile) while using the form designer in the IDE FireMonkey Enhancements for Windows, Mac and mobile Address Book/Contacts component Style Designer & ListView Items Designer Numerous other features including ListView touch animation, grid improvements, Windows accelerator key support, font enhancements and more Multi-Device Designer Improvements Including Form Designer Preview on Device Android Wear Styling & new FireUI views IoT or Internet of Things Extended Bluetooth LE support IoT connectivity framework that turns off-the-shelf and custom IoT smart devices, sensors, and wearables into easy-to-use API components Support for Bluetooth LE and Z-Wave device components ThingPoint - Enterprise access points for your IoT devices which extends EMS functionality Window/VCL Improvement to WinRT bridge including Bluetooth LE support for Windows 10 DirectX 12 Support Delphi Compiler & Language Native support for Utf8String type on all platforms Support for weak and unsafe interface references on non-ARC platforms, like Windows C++ CLANG 3.3 on all platforms FireDAC Driver Updates - including Oracle, DB2, Interbase, SQLite, and Advantage The second development track, code named “Godzilla,” will deliver a Fall release. It will enable you to develop Delphi and C++ applications to run on Linux Server. This is a much anticipated addition to our product and a result of over two years of development. We intend to release a tech preview sometime this summer of the Delphi for Linux Server technology to give developers a chance to try it for a while, give us feedback and help us ensure it is as stable and solid as possible. Here are some further details on what we are aiming for with the initial Fall release: Apache modules in WebBroker and support for DataSnap and EMS FireDAC Linux database access Linux platform support for console apps with IoT support We will formally support Ubuntu Server & RedHat Enterprise. We will extend the formally supported Linux distributions list over time as demand dictates Windows based IDE with cross-compiler, deploy and debug via PAServer Linux compilers will be for Intel 64-bit server, LLVM-based and ARC-enabled While Linux will be the cornerstone of the Fall release, we have a huge list of other features we want to add to the product, some of which are outlined below in the roadmap image. We have also defined general areas of priority since an image can only convey so much data. IDE UI improvements and styling Update of all C++ compilers to newer versions of Clang Further improvements for GetIt, both for the package manager and the installer New Windows 10 VCL controls More FireMonkey platform native control support Windows 10 Centennial support (pending Microsoft release of the Centennial Universal Windows Platform bridge) Support for coming versions of iOS and Android As we are in the detailed planning stages for this release, we will share additional details as we get further into 2016. If you have specific items or questions, please let the Product Management team know and we can talk or you can log ideas and enhancement requests as well at quality.embarcadero.com. The RAD Studio Product Management Team 2016 roadmap These plans and roadmap represent our intentions as of this date, but our development plans and priorities are subject to change. Accordingly, we can’t offer any commitments or other forms of assurance that we’ll ultimately release any or all of the above-described products on the schedule or in the order described, or at all. These general indications of development schedules or “product roadmaps” should not be interpreted or construed as any form of a commitment, and our customers’ rights to upgrades, updates, enhancements and other maintenance releases will be set forth only in the applicable software license agreement. ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/2 16:43:59 | ||||
| 2楼： | 這個機會早出來啦，要注意只是支持服務器端，或者說，支持開發非GUI界面的linux程序，因為目的很明顯，就是開發linux web軟件。 當然，我覺得 mORMot + FPC/Lazarus 是更好的選擇 ：） ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/2 21:47:13 | ||||
| 3楼： | 对Linux 服务端的支持早就该出来。不知说了多少年，黄花菜都凉了。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/3 5:49:23 | ||||
| 4楼： | 蓝图总让人兴奋，尽管生活并非也是如此。从过去的十几年来看，delphi对当时的新技术的支持还是相当全面的，因为有些技术到目前我也没有使用，但它确实存在并且应该有其他人在使用。很多时候，我是通过delphi或其他开发工具来了解目前的新技术，而不是像Product Management Team做的那样辛苦；而且更让人轻松的是不必承担任何责任，所以 我现在提一个不知道有多遥远的应用场景：VR虚拟现实的内容提供组件。虚拟也许也是现实的一部分，它们之间谁更重要也许会成为一个悬念，就像人工智能还是不是人工的智能；不过，目前没必要分出一二，报纸是新闻的载体，网站是电子新闻的载体，当VR有一天也很平凡的时候，我们还是会借助它得到我们关心的现实，就像新闻联播的新闻都是新的，但拍摄的方法已然陈旧。当生活的方式已然如此，剩下的就是它的内容了。 ---------------------------------------------- http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5858ebf40100p5o9.html http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5858ebf40100p5ol.html |
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2016/7/3 8:41:34 | ||||
| 5楼： | 这都半年过去了，你才知道，马上出的d10.1 update1就要出个for linux预览版。 ---------------------------------------------- -我的博客 |
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2016/7/3 13:10:15 | ||||
| 6楼： | 不会是keylix4吧 ---------------------------------------------- 一卡通专家的中专家www.cnduh.com |
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2016/7/4 8:38:02 | ||||
| 7楼： | 5 楼骗子。 linux 预览版 要 秋季 10.2 才支持。 ---------------------------------------------- (C)(P)Flying Wang |
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2016/7/4 9:16:47 | ||||
| 8楼： | 搞这东西有用么？能赚钱么？往歪路上拐的感觉。 ---------------------------------------------- 声明：本人不在论坛询问任何编程问题，请不要将我的帖子当成问题来回答。炒股一天，编程三年，不浪费时间了。 经常在外面,没空,不要找我.. |
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2016/7/4 10:33:48 | ||||
| 9楼： | 小企业用不上linux ,win足够了 大一点的就需要了，连锁也需要 这个只是服务器支持，客户端不支持 估计是无界面或者最简单的界面支持 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/5 12:54:12 | ||||
| 10楼： | 7 楼，是官方路线图中说的，又不是我说的。 这是有图为证 ---------------------------------------------- -我的博客 |
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2016/7/5 13:19:57 | ||||
| 11楼： | sorry 忘了是 预览版 了。 ---------------------------------------------- (C)(P)Flying Wang |
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2016/7/5 15:23:22 | ||||
| 12楼： | .NET Core 说支持 Linux 就支持了，而且动作很快，Delphi 3年前就说支持 Linux，很遗憾现在还没真正做到，动作实在是太慢了。 大家认为我说的公道吗？ ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/6 8:03:09 | ||||
| 13楼： | 12楼 那是因为.net 有mono ---------------------------------------------- 火鸟 |
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2016/7/6 8:16:49 | ||||
| 14楼： | .Net Core不是MONO， 是一个全新的玩意， 支持LINUX下的开发， .Net去年说开始搞，今年就产品就出来了 Delphi从Delphi7时代就开始整，到现在也没整出个来。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/6 17:20:03 | ||||
| 15楼： | vs code/.net core，都是非常有诚意的东西，值得一试 ---------------------------------------------- MVCXE中国首个DELPHI MVC WEB框架:https://www.mvcxe.com/ |
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2016/7/11 7:45:36 | ||||
| 16楼： | 有精力有闲情 只管去学 就怕 微软玩票 说丢就丢 说全新改版,推倒重来 就丢了 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/13 16:50:00 | ||||
| 17楼： | 微软出的新东西等个过渡期吧，最好等个半年观望下，微软嘴上说支持，很多时候身体是很诚实的 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/22 8:46:40 | ||||
| 18楼： | 不支持LINUX也骂，支持也骂，无语。能支持LINUX SERVER 总是好的， 桌面能支持更好 ，当然LINUX桌面系统很少有人用。 LINUX SERVER 在有些大公司是硬指示，必需用的。如果能支持LINUX SERVER 这样DELPHI在服务端就能和JAVA对干。 ---------------------------------------------- 我为人人为我 |
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2016/7/22 8:47:31 | ||||
| 19楼： | INTRAWEB 支持LINUX SERVER吗 问一下。 ---------------------------------------------- 我为人人为我 |
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2016/7/22 9:02:24 | ||||
| 20楼： | To siaosa 也不看看从Delphi7到现在都过几手了,比不上微软是正常的,要不然也不会那么多人被微软挖走了. ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/22 9:05:59 | ||||
| 21楼： | 楼上 D7 和我们讨论的内容无关啊。 ---------------------------------------------- (C)(P)Flying Wang |
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2016/7/25 17:36:13 | ||||
| 22楼： | 宝蓝当年有搞了个kylix，是linux下的开发环境，但是没搞2年就放弃了。 说良心话，微软还是比较靠谱的。虽然微软也经常抛弃自己吹了半天的东西。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/25 18:46:09 | ||||
| 23楼： | Borland 的思维有问题吧。明知 Linux 是无主持者，不可能支援千变万化的版本。所以当年建议他们定立自己的 Linux 版本作标准。那时很多人认同，可是官方不想投资。如果当年他们真的有自己的 Linux 版本，那很可能就是今天 Linux 的主导者。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/25 19:06:31 | ||||
| 24楼： | Microsoft 市值超过７０００亿美元，Embarcadero 上年转手的市场估值是３亿美元左右。Embarcadero 是 Idera 持有，而 Idera 是 Microsoft 持有的。那两者不能比较吧！ ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/26 15:04:57 | ||||
| 25楼： | 对楼上的想法还是认同的 如果当年对LINUX搞自己的版本 现在可以会有个DINUX了 ---------------------------------------------- 我为人人为我 |
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2016/7/27 8:32:21 | ||||
| 26楼： | 跟.NET 还是跟LINUX 当年宝蓝内部争论不断 最后还是跟了.NET 浪费了很多时间 LINUX桌面用的人少 这是事实 但是LINUX SERVER用的人可不少 在有些大公司这个是硬指标 ---------------------------------------------- 我为人人为我 |
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2016/7/27 8:51:53 | ||||
| 27楼： | Server 世界八成是 Linux 。当然这不包括盗版横行的中国。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/27 9:57:44 | ||||
| 28楼： | 国外不了解.在国内企业中.linux的数量应该是小于winserver的,像银行,电信,保险这种不提.一般的企业应用中winserver也许是多数.未来是否有linux普通企业用户来使用..现在还看不清楚....银行,电信.保险这些应该很少有人用delphi做开发工具搞的吧....现在支持估计也是小额投资一下未来....我估计支持linux.仅仅是证明我也行..并不一定能我很行.... ---------------------------------------------- 山外青山楼外楼,能人背后有能人弄.. |
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2016/7/27 10:04:54 | ||||
| 29楼： | 我们要进军 银行,电信,保险 这些高端行业。 ---------------------------------------------- (C)(P)Flying Wang |
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2016/7/27 10:19:05 | ||||
| 30楼： | to pp0123 windows服务器市场份额是88%而且每年接近1%增长已经持续多年了. 仅仅是web服务器unix 是67% windows是33%,但这67%是几十个发行版的linux和unix总和,其中前三的版本和windows接近.而这些web服务器基本上属于大型互联网公司.中小型企业很低. https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/operating_system/all http://www.199it.com/archives/495218.html---------------------------------------------- http://blog.sina.com.cn/bmsrnote |
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2016/7/27 11:34:13 | ||||
| 31楼： | 用windows的都是微小企业吧。中小型的APP后端的web都是java做的，跑在阿里云的Linux上。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/27 13:25:54 | ||||
| 32楼： | 能有自己服务器和机房的会是微型企业? ---------------------------------------------- http://blog.sina.com.cn/bmsrnote |
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2016/7/27 13:42:56 | ||||
| 33楼： | 用windows的都是微小企业？ 我的上家公司有80多台服务器，linux只有2台，清一色windows，公司总部有3000多人，这算微型企业吗？ ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/27 14:56:03 | ||||
| 34楼： | 用windows的都是微小企业吧－－－－老皇历了，windows服务器早就远超linux了 ---------------------------------------------- UniKeeper V10.40 -- 您最贴心的个人数据管理助手 |
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2016/7/27 15:47:33 | ||||
| 35楼： | 微软闷声发大财，Windows Server早已经不是以前的市场份额了，大中小企业都有非常多的使用微软服务器，上面 bmsr (白忙剩人) 已经用数字说话了。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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2016/7/27 15:56:08 | ||||
| 36楼： | 又顶出来了...路过.... ---------------------------------------------- -我的博客 |
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2016/7/28 8:52:52 | ||||
| 37楼： | 所以还是先专注某一个平台 好好发展壮大 在去考虑别的平台。出一套牛不的web后端框架，支持一个delphi 动态脚本，前端 用html js css。 ---------------------------------------------- - |
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